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Recently I’ve spent quite a bit of time trying to come up with a fitting NBA comparison for the Andrew Bogut i2.0 that’s been unleashed on the NBA in the last two months. I wanted to be able to preach the greatness of the BoGod to those who are NBA fans yet don’t catch too many Milwaukee games (i.e. most people). I wanted to tell them that “he’s playing like…”, yet would end up saying something like gun, or champ, or star. All of which are true, of course, but don’t really convey a great amount of information, particularly coming from an Au-ssssie. More than saying that he’s playing well, I wished to express precisely how he was doing it.
Now, some of you will dismiss player comparisons as entirely too simplistic a practice. Others will argue that no two players are really alike, so the whole exercise is a waste of time. Nonetheless, it’s fun to do, and it’s the easiest way to describe a player in 10 words or less.
For example, I’ve never seen Evan Turner play – I find college basketball to be only slightly more watchable than, say, fishing or curling. I can, nonetheless, form a rough idea of his style of play from the comparisons floating about. Some hybrid of Roy, Wade and Pippen, they say. No doubt one of you college basketball aficionados will tell me why that’s a dumb comparison, or that he won’t be nearly as good, or whatever. But the point remains – it’s a lot more useful to give a comparison than to simply describe a player as a star.
So, with no further ado, I present:
Andrew Bogut: a slightly-poor man’s Tim Duncan.
I know what you’re thinking and yes, I’ve broken the rule of player comparisons which dictates that white guys should only ever be compared with other white guys. Still, if you can get over that little tidbit, the similarities should be clear.
In fact, rather than going through all of them, I’d urge anyone to name any glaring differences in their games. The answer – obvious if you’ve watched both play – is that Duncan has that beautiful bank-shot, and Bogut doesn’t. Easy enough. So we have;
Andrew Bogut: Tim Duncan without a bankshot.
Any other quibbles you may have should be minor. For example, Duncan was – in his prime – a better man defender. But stylistically, there’s not much difference in the way they went about it. Likewise for anything else you can think of. It’s simply the best fit out there. They both epitomise fundamentals over athleticism, effectiveness over style. They both just get it done.
And yes, Tim Duncan is an undisputed legend of the game. One of the greats. I’m sure some will call this whole post idiotic on the basis of that fact alone. But I say we should embrace the comparison. Embrace it, use it, and watch as those who hear it for the first time react with indignation and dismiss it altogether. That’s OK.
But I bet that next time they watch a Milwaukee game, they’ll inevitable recognize the obvious shades of Timmy in Bogut’s game. Even if they won’t ever admit it.
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they are both non-flashy players, and very sound fundamentally. from that perspective, it may be the best comparison for Bogut.
I’ve said forever that Bogut is the closest player to Tim Duncan in terms of his skill set. Obviously not in terms of impact (until now, it seems), but very similar games.
I’d be interested to see who would win a knife-fight between Bogut’s left hand and Carlos Boozer’s left hand in a dark alley.
Boozer would win; he’d pretend the fight was over, then when you turn around he’ll attack.
I don’t like the comparison between Bogut and Duncan. Duncan is known as a reliable, consistent player who gets it done every night. With Bogut, he will have good games, and then he’ll inexplicably disappear in others (even when the matchup is supposed to be in his favour)
@JV, Bogut has been pretty damn consistent over the last 20-30 games. I know its not an entire season, but it looks like he’ll sustain it. I’m hoping that the Andrew Bogut 2.0 is here to stay.
the guys over at Hardwood Paroxysm said he was the second best center in the league at the moment. hard to argue with, right?
@JV
This might be true of previous years, but those inconsistencies have been remarkably absent this season.
Don’t forget the Bucks have been an entirely perimeter based shooting team since George Karl left, with a revolving door of rookie coaches unable to change the trend (largely due to a certain off guard jacking up 25+ shots a night – a real shame that ankle injury lol). I put it to you that very few big men in the history of the game are going to flourish in those circs.
An experienced coach, accountability on both ends of the court, a distribute first point guard, and of course a largely injury free season.
I don’t think it’s coincidence we’re seeing a much more settled and dominant performance out of the big guy.
“Five years into career, Bucks’ Bogut living up to hype”
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/03/11/fiveonrise.week20/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1
Bleh, Joakim Noah and the Al Horford? Rubbish, neither can hold candle to Bogut. Only 2 players in the league average more than 15 ppg, 10 rpg, & 2 bpg. He’s a clear 2nd in blocks at 2.5, and I think it was 4th in offensive fouls drawn. Espn.com have him running 2nd for defensive player of the year behind Howard.
Good article here:
http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2010/03/10/13186481.html
I think he can definitely make the All-Defensive Second Team, and potentially the All-NBA Second or Third Team. That would cap off a great season for him.
Agree with Cliffton. It’s no coincidence we’re seeing this from Boges. It’s the combination of a good coach, an injury-free run, and disciplined team members.
Can’t wait to see him in the playoffs!
If only we could get Skiles to coach the Boomers….if i have to watch Ingles jack up 3 after 3 after 3 i will shoot someone
good call on the Timmy comparison. plus, Bogut seems to be serving up terribly nasty dunks every few weeks. which Duncan tends to do every 3-4 years.
ya good point aides. he might not have that bank shot but he’s surprisingly athletic for a 7 footer.
just need to look at that wizards game last week (the 1 in dc), where he flew down the right side wing for the half court alley from jennings. and then that play where he was hammering down the centre of the key for the tasty dish from bj again for the nasty throw down.
you get used to seeing 7 footers shuffling down the court behind play, not tearing past guards/forwards. neither play happens if he’s not out-running the D down the court.
I’m glad you broke the rule that we’re not supposed to compare players across race. It was a stupid, nonsensical rule in the first place.
PS Thanks for linking my Lawn Chair Boys bit on Bogut. It’s much appreciated.
The comparison will be better once Bogut wins four NBA championships.
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