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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.nbamate.com/2009/02/24/how-fued-are-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-1452</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robd-  absolutely correct,the team is in trouble when Dice is playing the best out of everybody and when you need him to play great just to win.

Dice would fit in great w/ Orlando or Cleveland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robd-  absolutely correct,the team is in trouble when Dice is playing the best out of everybody and when you need him to play great just to win.</p>
<p>Dice would fit in great w/ Orlando or Cleveland.</p>
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		<title>By: chucko</title>
		<link>http://www.nbamate.com/2009/02/24/how-fued-are-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>chucko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a suns fan, i can safely say that the phrase &quot;Imagine having a power forward who didn’t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work&quot; and &quot;Amare&quot; should not be in the same paragraph. 

If the pistons got Bosh and Martin that would be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a suns fan, i can safely say that the phrase &#8220;Imagine having a power forward who didn’t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work&#8221; and &#8220;Amare&#8221; should not be in the same paragraph. </p>
<p>If the pistons got Bosh and Martin that would be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
		<link>http://www.nbamate.com/2009/02/24/how-fued-are-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-1439</link>
		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think JOey D really shot himself in the foot when he resigned Rip for 3 years. now they are stuck with Rip and Stuckey and its pretty clear that Stuck isn&#039;t a natural PG. if they got rid of Rip they could get a more traditional PG and move Stuckey to his more natural Wade-esque 2-guard spot.

Dumars really screwed up this year!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think JOey D really shot himself in the foot when he resigned Rip for 3 years. now they are stuck with Rip and Stuckey and its pretty clear that Stuck isn&#8217;t a natural PG. if they got rid of Rip they could get a more traditional PG and move Stuckey to his more natural Wade-esque 2-guard spot.</p>
<p>Dumars really screwed up this year!!</p>
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		<title>By: robd</title>
		<link>http://www.nbamate.com/2009/02/24/how-fued-are-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>robd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan, Dyess is still busting his ass out there. but if we need Dyess to be going 15-15 just to win a game we are in trouble.

@A concerned fan, you serious? AI drinks too much? I have never heard that before. Any evidence to back that up?

@Chucko, its pretty simple. we let AI and Sheed go. that will give us options this summer (perhaps Amare) but more than likely gears us for a big run at 2010. It will also place more responsibility on the younger guy&#039;s shoulders and completely change the identity of this team. Imagine having a power forward who didn&#039;t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work?

I think 2009-2010 will be the step backwards before taking a step forward. I&#039;m not a massive fan of Coach Curry (how could you be?) but if he stays on next year will be a lot easier for him, not only because he&#039;s more experienced, but because the expectations will be a lot less. 

@Simon, glad you found us mate, us Aussie Pistons fans are a rare breed :) Getting Bosh AND Martin would be just.. wow.

@Ham, is that a direct quote?! My God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan, Dyess is still busting his ass out there. but if we need Dyess to be going 15-15 just to win a game we are in trouble.</p>
<p>@A concerned fan, you serious? AI drinks too much? I have never heard that before. Any evidence to back that up?</p>
<p>@Chucko, its pretty simple. we let AI and Sheed go. that will give us options this summer (perhaps Amare) but more than likely gears us for a big run at 2010. It will also place more responsibility on the younger guy&#8217;s shoulders and completely change the identity of this team. Imagine having a power forward who didn&#8217;t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work?</p>
<p>I think 2009-2010 will be the step backwards before taking a step forward. I&#8217;m not a massive fan of Coach Curry (how could you be?) but if he stays on next year will be a lot easier for him, not only because he&#8217;s more experienced, but because the expectations will be a lot less. </p>
<p>@Simon, glad you found us mate, us Aussie Pistons fans are a rare breed <img src='http://www.nbamate.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Getting Bosh AND Martin would be just.. wow.</p>
<p>@Ham, is that a direct quote?! My God.</p>
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		<title>By: Ham</title>
		<link>http://www.nbamate.com/2009/02/24/how-fued-are-detroit/comment-page-1/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Ham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob says: &quot;How does it feel to be the only undefeated team in the east along with detroit? Except you don&#039;t have allen iverson and we do.&quot;

how times have changed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob says: &#8220;How does it feel to be the only undefeated team in the east along with detroit? Except you don&#8217;t have allen iverson and we do.&#8221;</p>
<p>how times have changed!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a pistons fan all my life and i live in Australia so i was quite excited to find this blog written by a fellow pistons fan. When i first heard iverson was coming to detroit i was as shocked as anyone. But i kept thinking it may be a good idea for all the reasons most people did. That he could take over the game come playoff time and win a game off his own back. This does not seem to be the case. I still back stuckey and think he will flourish and just needs time and he has been thrown into this role so quickly, i think he just needs time to adjust and he will. last few days i have had serious thoughts that the pistons won&#039;t make the finals and even though it does not seem likely it may in fact happen. We have peaked and its time for rebuilding. Goodbye sheed/AI. If they renew AI&#039;s contract (there is no hope in hell they will) then i will be deeply saddened.

In reference to chucko, imagine if pistons let go AI/wallace and others and got bosh/Martin (kings). Stuckey,Martin,Prince,Bosh with hamilton still coming off the bench would look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a pistons fan all my life and i live in Australia so i was quite excited to find this blog written by a fellow pistons fan. When i first heard iverson was coming to detroit i was as shocked as anyone. But i kept thinking it may be a good idea for all the reasons most people did. That he could take over the game come playoff time and win a game off his own back. This does not seem to be the case. I still back stuckey and think he will flourish and just needs time and he has been thrown into this role so quickly, i think he just needs time to adjust and he will. last few days i have had serious thoughts that the pistons won&#8217;t make the finals and even though it does not seem likely it may in fact happen. We have peaked and its time for rebuilding. Goodbye sheed/AI. If they renew AI&#8217;s contract (there is no hope in hell they will) then i will be deeply saddened.</p>
<p>In reference to chucko, imagine if pistons let go AI/wallace and others and got bosh/Martin (kings). Stuckey,Martin,Prince,Bosh with hamilton still coming off the bench would look good.</p>
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		<title>By: I AGREE</title>
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		<dc:creator>I AGREE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PISS ON THE PISTONS............THEY SUCK
SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PISS ON THE PISTONS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;THEY SUCK<br />
SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH</p>
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		<title>By: chucko</title>
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		<dc:creator>chucko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right Rob, it&#039;s so much more disapointing when the reason you are losing is because the players have stopped trying to win. The first place that a lack of effort shows up is the defensive end and it&#039;s quite clear that &quot;The most defensive team&quot; (maybe second to the Spurs) has clearly slipped on the defensive end. It&#039;s not like the Pistons lost their defensive presence in Billups, so the blame falls squarely on the rest of the team no longer applying the preassure and not making the stops. 

The question is, Rob, do you think that Detroit&#039;s current problems can be fixed with a trade, and if so who? or do you think it&#039;s time for detroit to blow it up? and if so, who would you keep? Stuckey? AI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right Rob, it&#8217;s so much more disapointing when the reason you are losing is because the players have stopped trying to win. The first place that a lack of effort shows up is the defensive end and it&#8217;s quite clear that &#8220;The most defensive team&#8221; (maybe second to the Spurs) has clearly slipped on the defensive end. It&#8217;s not like the Pistons lost their defensive presence in Billups, so the blame falls squarely on the rest of the team no longer applying the preassure and not making the stops. </p>
<p>The question is, Rob, do you think that Detroit&#8217;s current problems can be fixed with a trade, and if so who? or do you think it&#8217;s time for detroit to blow it up? and if so, who would you keep? Stuckey? AI?</p>
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		<title>By: A concerned fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>A concerned fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, it looks like you&#039;re in Australia, so you couldn&#039;t possibly know this: word on the street is that Iverson drinks too much, dude. I heard from someone I trust that he&#039;s at the MGM on a regular basis, getting &quot;toe&quot; down, as we say in tha D. 

If it&#039;s true, it&#039;s totally thrown off his coordination. You can see it when he&#039;s making amazing shots in the flow of the game, and just totally blowing it at the free throw line.

I hate to spread gossip, especially in this case because I&#039;ve always loved AI. It&#039;s because I love him, and because I love this team so &amp;@^#ing much, that I feel like someone&#039;s gotta say something. Let&#039;s be really real. If it&#039;s true that things have gotten out of control for him, then the dude needs some help. 

I&#039;m just some guy, I don&#039;t have the inside scoop, I&#039;m just going by what I&#039;ve heard from living here and knowing people. I&#039;m just a regular fan like the thousands of others here who want him and the team to succeed. But I don&#039;t want to see them drop ANOTHER Saturday no-show because their best player had another fun Saturday night, let alone wake up tomorrow and hear that he wrapped his ride around a tree.

I just wonder if Joe knew before the guy got here. I mean, Larry Brown tried to explain what was up in an interview right after the trade, but he&#039;s not going to call a guy out on that sort of thing in public, even if he does know.

But, Dumars has to wonder about the effect Iverson had on Denver and the incredible POSITIVE impact his departure has had on that team. Likewise with the Sixers a few years ago. At least this all suggests to me that the Pistons will be ok in the long run. I just hope Allen is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, it looks like you&#8217;re in Australia, so you couldn&#8217;t possibly know this: word on the street is that Iverson drinks too much, dude. I heard from someone I trust that he&#8217;s at the MGM on a regular basis, getting &#8220;toe&#8221; down, as we say in tha D. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s true, it&#8217;s totally thrown off his coordination. You can see it when he&#8217;s making amazing shots in the flow of the game, and just totally blowing it at the free throw line.</p>
<p>I hate to spread gossip, especially in this case because I&#8217;ve always loved AI. It&#8217;s because I love him, and because I love this team so &amp;@^#ing much, that I feel like someone&#8217;s gotta say something. Let&#8217;s be really real. If it&#8217;s true that things have gotten out of control for him, then the dude needs some help. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just some guy, I don&#8217;t have the inside scoop, I&#8217;m just going by what I&#8217;ve heard from living here and knowing people. I&#8217;m just a regular fan like the thousands of others here who want him and the team to succeed. But I don&#8217;t want to see them drop ANOTHER Saturday no-show because their best player had another fun Saturday night, let alone wake up tomorrow and hear that he wrapped his ride around a tree.</p>
<p>I just wonder if Joe knew before the guy got here. I mean, Larry Brown tried to explain what was up in an interview right after the trade, but he&#8217;s not going to call a guy out on that sort of thing in public, even if he does know.</p>
<p>But, Dumars has to wonder about the effect Iverson had on Denver and the incredible POSITIVE impact his departure has had on that team. Likewise with the Sixers a few years ago. At least this all suggests to me that the Pistons will be ok in the long run. I just hope Allen is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*IS

Dice is still busting his tail out there.

But yeah, I agree with you for the most part.  AI will always give effort, he just chucks it too much and really stalls the offense.  Amir and Mad Max were not suppose to be the frontcourt future, even if they were, well, nobody has to worry about it now do they?

My feeling is that if the Billups AI trade never happened the Pistons would be squarely in the 4th slot probably 10-14 games over .500.  They would still have a shot to get to the ECF.  I will say this, if they do get their act together, they could present a problem in the playoffs because of the half court nature of the games, and as you probably still realize, AI CAN take over.  The only caveat to that is the defense part of it all.  Detroit DOES NOT DEFEND!!!

Hate to say it but I see this team finishing 7th or 8th and getting blasted by Bos or Clev/Orlan in 5.</description>
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<p>Dice is still busting his tail out there.</p>
<p>But yeah, I agree with you for the most part.  AI will always give effort, he just chucks it too much and really stalls the offense.  Amir and Mad Max were not suppose to be the frontcourt future, even if they were, well, nobody has to worry about it now do they?</p>
<p>My feeling is that if the Billups AI trade never happened the Pistons would be squarely in the 4th slot probably 10-14 games over .500.  They would still have a shot to get to the ECF.  I will say this, if they do get their act together, they could present a problem in the playoffs because of the half court nature of the games, and as you probably still realize, AI CAN take over.  The only caveat to that is the defense part of it all.  Detroit DOES NOT DEFEND!!!</p>
<p>Hate to say it but I see this team finishing 7th or 8th and getting blasted by Bos or Clev/Orlan in 5.</p>
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