Short Answer: Pretty fu**ed.
Long Answer:
Firstly, let’s completely rule out the chance that Detroit miss the playoffs. Detroit suck right now yes, but they will not miss the playoffs for the simple reason that the lower half of the Eastern Conference suck a whole lot more. I am a Detroit fan coming to grips with a catastrophic season after a trade that seems to have caused irreparable damage, but even missing the playoffs is beyond the realms of my comprehension. Missing the playoffs, quite simply, would be the most shocking thing to have happened to this franchise as long as I can remember.
Are Detroit really that bad or are they just falling below the lofty expectations we perennially set for them? That may sound silly, but no other team in the league could have labelled itself “disappointed” by making the Conference Finals each and every season. Detroit has. The Conference Finals haven’t been an achievement for the Pistons – they’ve been the expectation. So when the very real chance of a sub-50 win season and an early playoff exit comes along, perhaps everyone just needs to chill the f**k out and set the bar a little lower? WRONG. There’s no other way to put this, so I’ll just say it. Right now, Detroit is probably the worst team in the league. You can say they’re underachieving, yeah, but even that is sugar coating it.
Shocked to hear me call them the worst team in the league? Don’t be. When you look at the “W” column over the last 10 games only the Thunder, T-Wolves and Kings are as bad (they’re all 2-8). Firstly, all those teams are in the much tougher Western Conference (and for anyone who likes to argue that the Eastern Conference has regained its credibility, please note that yet again we will see at least one East team who makes the playoffs with a sub-500 record while the worst West playoff team will probably be 12 games over .500). But it’s not the conference that matters. The real reason why the Pistons are the worst team in the league at the moment is because they have no one playing well. NO ONE. You look at the Thunder and you can see Durant still pouring in points and wowing crowds all around the country. You watch the T-Wolves and you know you’re seeing a future All-Star in Al Jefferson, a guy who until his recent injury was eating 25-15 games for breakfast. You look at the Kings and Kevin Martin is averaging 25-4 so far in February – sure they’re still losing but the guy is putting up 35 points every second night. Every crap team in the league has at least one thing going for them, at least one player who is playing damn well. The Pistons?
The Pistons are fu**ed. Sheed doesn’t seem to give to a crap any more and is taking almost half his shots from behind the arc lately. Tayshaun Prince is averaging 11.2 points a game in Feb – to put it in perspective that is a little better than Marc Gasol’s season average. Amir Johnson and Jason Maxiell are combing for a magnificent 6.8 points and 7.2 rebounds per game through Feb – this is supposed to be the future frontcourt for this franchise. Rip is scoring a lot of points but you wonder how he’s still getting 20 points with 10 less minutes per game? (i.e. he’s taking too many shots). Iverson has been a warrior putting up 21 and 5 through Feb but is shooting only 41%. And then we come to Rodney Stuckey, averaging barely 9 ppg and shooting 36% this month. The one thing that is the hardest to swallow about all the abovementioned players is the lack of advancement in Stuckey’s game. Perhaps he’s a bit overwhelmed at sharing the court with a future Hall of Famer in AI? Perhaps he’s trying too hard to fit in his role rather than playing his natural game? I don’t know what the reason is, but early 2009 was supposed to be the time that Rodney Stuckey was soaring in readiness for his first starting playoff role. As it is, he is just one of many Pistons players (i.e. every) who are struggling. We have no Durant. We have no Jefferson. We have a bunch of guys going out there and stinking it up for 48 minutes.
Before I end this rant I want to say one more thing. Rarely does a big trade reap the immediate and painfully visible impact that the Chauncey-Iverson trade did earlier this season. On paper there’s no reason it should have happened. Most people agreed (and would still probably argue) that Iverson is simply the better player of the two, and that any loss in the chemistry and floor-leadership that Chauncey brought would be offset by Iverson’s potent scoring ability and desperation for a ring. Not so apparently.
But you have to be careful to cast the blame for the demise of this Detroit team upon Iverson’s shoulders. Iverson is the one guy who seemingly hasn’t given up yet. While Tay sulks about “having never been in this position before” and Rip seems stubbornly intent at proving he can still score 30 off the bench, Iverson is the one guy showing a constant thread of positivity. He has to. Not only does Detroit’s season depend upon it, but so does his legacy. Not the “great player but never won a ring” legacy. But the legacy that Iverson has tried so carefully to avoid his whole career – the unnerving reality that an Allen Iverson team can never win. That Allen Iverson is a disruptive force. That Allen Iverson is a cancer. The last thing a dude like Iverson needs, a future Hall of Famer with an individual career decorated beyond belief, is to have his last title-winning hopes dashed because the very trade that put him there completely destroyed the team. It is unfortunate, but it his happening.
This has been a rant. An emotionally charged rant from a Pistons fan who is still clinging to hope but every now and then gives in to the pessimistic demons within. Over the past six years I have been so conditioned to thinking that it doesn’t matter what happens in the regular season, because this team knows how to turn it on come playoff time. Something tells me that is a habit that needs to die. But there is something they say about old habits and dying, and I’m not just about ready to give up yet. I only wish every Pistons player could look me in the eye and tell me that themselves.
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Dice is still busting his tail out there.
But yeah, I agree with you for the most part. AI will always give effort, he just chucks it too much and really stalls the offense. Amir and Mad Max were not suppose to be the frontcourt future, even if they were, well, nobody has to worry about it now do they?
My feeling is that if the Billups AI trade never happened the Pistons would be squarely in the 4th slot probably 10-14 games over .500. They would still have a shot to get to the ECF. I will say this, if they do get their act together, they could present a problem in the playoffs because of the half court nature of the games, and as you probably still realize, AI CAN take over. The only caveat to that is the defense part of it all. Detroit DOES NOT DEFEND!!!
Hate to say it but I see this team finishing 7th or 8th and getting blasted by Bos or Clev/Orlan in 5.
Ok, it looks like you’re in Australia, so you couldn’t possibly know this: word on the street is that Iverson drinks too much, dude. I heard from someone I trust that he’s at the MGM on a regular basis, getting “toe” down, as we say in tha D.
If it’s true, it’s totally thrown off his coordination. You can see it when he’s making amazing shots in the flow of the game, and just totally blowing it at the free throw line.
I hate to spread gossip, especially in this case because I’ve always loved AI. It’s because I love him, and because I love this team so &@^#ing much, that I feel like someone’s gotta say something. Let’s be really real. If it’s true that things have gotten out of control for him, then the dude needs some help.
I’m just some guy, I don’t have the inside scoop, I’m just going by what I’ve heard from living here and knowing people. I’m just a regular fan like the thousands of others here who want him and the team to succeed. But I don’t want to see them drop ANOTHER Saturday no-show because their best player had another fun Saturday night, let alone wake up tomorrow and hear that he wrapped his ride around a tree.
I just wonder if Joe knew before the guy got here. I mean, Larry Brown tried to explain what was up in an interview right after the trade, but he’s not going to call a guy out on that sort of thing in public, even if he does know.
But, Dumars has to wonder about the effect Iverson had on Denver and the incredible POSITIVE impact his departure has had on that team. Likewise with the Sixers a few years ago. At least this all suggests to me that the Pistons will be ok in the long run. I just hope Allen is.
You’re right Rob, it’s so much more disapointing when the reason you are losing is because the players have stopped trying to win. The first place that a lack of effort shows up is the defensive end and it’s quite clear that “The most defensive team” (maybe second to the Spurs) has clearly slipped on the defensive end. It’s not like the Pistons lost their defensive presence in Billups, so the blame falls squarely on the rest of the team no longer applying the preassure and not making the stops.
The question is, Rob, do you think that Detroit’s current problems can be fixed with a trade, and if so who? or do you think it’s time for detroit to blow it up? and if so, who would you keep? Stuckey? AI?
PISS ON THE PISTONS…………THEY SUCK
SORRY TO SAY THAT BUT IT IS THE TRUTH
I have been a pistons fan all my life and i live in Australia so i was quite excited to find this blog written by a fellow pistons fan. When i first heard iverson was coming to detroit i was as shocked as anyone. But i kept thinking it may be a good idea for all the reasons most people did. That he could take over the game come playoff time and win a game off his own back. This does not seem to be the case. I still back stuckey and think he will flourish and just needs time and he has been thrown into this role so quickly, i think he just needs time to adjust and he will. last few days i have had serious thoughts that the pistons won’t make the finals and even though it does not seem likely it may in fact happen. We have peaked and its time for rebuilding. Goodbye sheed/AI. If they renew AI’s contract (there is no hope in hell they will) then i will be deeply saddened.
In reference to chucko, imagine if pistons let go AI/wallace and others and got bosh/Martin (kings). Stuckey,Martin,Prince,Bosh with hamilton still coming off the bench would look good.
Rob says: “How does it feel to be the only undefeated team in the east along with detroit? Except you don’t have allen iverson and we do.”
how times have changed!
@Ryan, Dyess is still busting his ass out there. but if we need Dyess to be going 15-15 just to win a game we are in trouble.
@A concerned fan, you serious? AI drinks too much? I have never heard that before. Any evidence to back that up?
@Chucko, its pretty simple. we let AI and Sheed go. that will give us options this summer (perhaps Amare) but more than likely gears us for a big run at 2010. It will also place more responsibility on the younger guy’s shoulders and completely change the identity of this team. Imagine having a power forward who didn’t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work?
I think 2009-2010 will be the step backwards before taking a step forward. I’m not a massive fan of Coach Curry (how could you be?) but if he stays on next year will be a lot easier for him, not only because he’s more experienced, but because the expectations will be a lot less.
@Simon, glad you found us mate, us Aussie Pistons fans are a rare breed
Getting Bosh AND Martin would be just.. wow.
@Ham, is that a direct quote?! My God.
i think JOey D really shot himself in the foot when he resigned Rip for 3 years. now they are stuck with Rip and Stuckey and its pretty clear that Stuck isn’t a natural PG. if they got rid of Rip they could get a more traditional PG and move Stuckey to his more natural Wade-esque 2-guard spot.
Dumars really screwed up this year!!
As a suns fan, i can safely say that the phrase “Imagine having a power forward who didn’t want to shoot threes all the time and actually did the dirty work” and “Amare” should not be in the same paragraph.
If the pistons got Bosh and Martin that would be awesome.
robd- absolutely correct,the team is in trouble when Dice is playing the best out of everybody and when you need him to play great just to win.
Dice would fit in great w/ Orlando or Cleveland.
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